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<blockquote data-quote="Otolap" data-source="post: 6139476" data-attributes="member: 31897"><p><span style="font-size: 22px"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">“The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom the emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand wrapped in awe, is as good as dead —his eyes are closed. The insight into the mystery of life, coupled though it be with fear, has also given rise to religion. To know what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms—this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness.”</span> </strong></span>[SPOILER="Vea usted quien lo dijo..."]<span style="font-size: 18px"><strong><a href="http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einstein" target="_blank">Albert Einstein</a></strong></span>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>La ciencia y la religión no son agua y aceite, a menos que sea "cerrado a la banda" en cuyo caso nada que hacer...</p><p></p><p>Una mini-lectura y ejemplo interesante y como ese hay muchos...</p><p></p><p><strong>Genesis, Quantum Physics and Reality</strong> <a href="http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2000/PSCF3-00Zoeller-Greer.html" target="_blank"><strong>LINK</strong></a></p><p></p><p>Bastante prepotente afirmar que se tiene la razón sin tener alguna prueba, acaso sabe usted que existe mas allá del universo conocido? que porcentaje de TODO el conocimiento dice usted tener? acaso sabe usted que hay mas allá de la muerte?</p><p></p><p>El conocimiento de la raza humana es insignificante, es mas si tomamos la escala de <strong>Kardashev</strong>, cualquier modelo similar o sus variables somos un simple 0 [a la izquierda] pero si se fija detenidamente el grado mas alto de estas escalas perfectamente describen lo que muchas religiones considerarían Dios, incluso citando a <em>Carl Sagan</em> "<em>An atheist has to know a lot more than I know. An atheist is someone who knows there is no God.</em>" en una de sus ultimas apariciones habla de una civilización tan avanzada y como la describe es como si estuviese hablando de Dios [sin importar cual fuese su orientación religiosa]</p><p></p><p>Lo que me 'sorprende' 'algunas veces' es que aquellos que mas critican a la religión por ser "extremistas, borregos, etc"... se comportan igual que aquellos que tanto critican.</p><p></p><p>editado para agregar lo siguiente:</p><p>[SPOILER="Carl Sagan denied being an atheist. So what did he believe? [Part 1]"]</p><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/achenblog/wp/2014/07/10/carl-sagan-denied-being-an-atheist-so-what-did-he-believe-part-1/" target="_blank"><strong>LINK</strong></a> </p><p></p><p>[...] To Robert Pope, of Windsor, Ontario, Oct. 2, 1996</p><p></p><p> “I am not an atheist. An atheist is someone who has compelling evidence that there is no Judeo-Christian-Islamic God. I am not that wise, but neither do I consider there to be anything approaching adequate evidence for such a god. Why are you in such a hurry to make up your mind? Why not simply wait until there is compelling evidence?” [It’s a bit puzzling that Sagan specifies the Abrahamic faiths in his definition of an atheist.]</p><p></p><p>To Stephen Jay Gould, Dec. 18, 1989, after a newspaper editorial referred to Sagan and Gould as “dogmatic” on the question of whether there is a God:</p><p></p><p> “Do you understand how – assuming either of us ever did say ‘The universe can be explained without postulating God’ – this could be understood as dogmatic? I often talk about the ‘God hypothesis’ as something I’d be fully willing to accept if there were compelling evidence; unfortunately, there is nothing approaching compelling evidence. That attitude, it seems to me, is undogmatic.”[/SPOILER]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Otolap, post: 6139476, member: 31897"] [SIZE=6][B][SIZE=4]“The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom the emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand wrapped in awe, is as good as dead —his eyes are closed. The insight into the mystery of life, coupled though it be with fear, has also given rise to religion. To know what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms—this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness.”[/SIZE] [/B][/SIZE][SPOILER="Vea usted quien lo dijo..."][SIZE=5][B][URL='http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einstein']Albert Einstein[/URL][/B][/SIZE][/SPOILER] La ciencia y la religión no son agua y aceite, a menos que sea "cerrado a la banda" en cuyo caso nada que hacer... Una mini-lectura y ejemplo interesante y como ese hay muchos... [B]Genesis, Quantum Physics and Reality[/B] [URL='http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2000/PSCF3-00Zoeller-Greer.html'][B]LINK[/B][/URL] Bastante prepotente afirmar que se tiene la razón sin tener alguna prueba, acaso sabe usted que existe mas allá del universo conocido? que porcentaje de TODO el conocimiento dice usted tener? acaso sabe usted que hay mas allá de la muerte? El conocimiento de la raza humana es insignificante, es mas si tomamos la escala de [B]Kardashev[/B], cualquier modelo similar o sus variables somos un simple 0 [a la izquierda] pero si se fija detenidamente el grado mas alto de estas escalas perfectamente describen lo que muchas religiones considerarían Dios, incluso citando a [I]Carl Sagan[/I] "[I]An atheist has to know a lot more than I know. An atheist is someone who knows there is no God.[/I]" en una de sus ultimas apariciones habla de una civilización tan avanzada y como la describe es como si estuviese hablando de Dios [sin importar cual fuese su orientación religiosa] Lo que me 'sorprende' 'algunas veces' es que aquellos que mas critican a la religión por ser "extremistas, borregos, etc"... se comportan igual que aquellos que tanto critican. editado para agregar lo siguiente: [SPOILER="Carl Sagan denied being an atheist. So what did he believe? [Part 1]"] [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/achenblog/wp/2014/07/10/carl-sagan-denied-being-an-atheist-so-what-did-he-believe-part-1/"][B]LINK[/B][/URL] [...] To Robert Pope, of Windsor, Ontario, Oct. 2, 1996 “I am not an atheist. An atheist is someone who has compelling evidence that there is no Judeo-Christian-Islamic God. I am not that wise, but neither do I consider there to be anything approaching adequate evidence for such a god. Why are you in such a hurry to make up your mind? Why not simply wait until there is compelling evidence?” [It’s a bit puzzling that Sagan specifies the Abrahamic faiths in his definition of an atheist.] To Stephen Jay Gould, Dec. 18, 1989, after a newspaper editorial referred to Sagan and Gould as “dogmatic” on the question of whether there is a God: “Do you understand how – assuming either of us ever did say ‘The universe can be explained without postulating God’ – this could be understood as dogmatic? I often talk about the ‘God hypothesis’ as something I’d be fully willing to accept if there were compelling evidence; unfortunately, there is nothing approaching compelling evidence. That attitude, it seems to me, is undogmatic.”[/SPOILER] [/QUOTE]
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